Why I didn't vote for the English Democrats this morning
As a supporter of the Campaign for an English Parliament I might today be expected to vote for the English Democrats Party who support an English parliament. This special election day post reveals why the English Democrats will not be receiving my vote.
The latest survey from YouGov (pdf) indicates that the English Democrats enjoy the support of 1% of the population, which rises to 3% in the North of England where they have some form of agreement with the holo-hoaxers of the England First Party (see English nationalism vs British nationalism). The exact nature of the arrangement between these two parties remains unspecified and there is no mention of it on the EDP's website. However, the website of the England First Party shows their members delivering leaflets for the English Democrats and speaking at the launch party.
If the English Democrats do poll well in the North, as YouGov suggests, then they will no doubt trumpet this arrangement as a success. But for me the ends do not justify the means, and as the EDP remain silent about their association with the England First Party we cannot even know what 'ends' have been agreed to.
In February the English Democrats 'five-year election strategist' - Steve Uncles - posted what can only be described as a racist joke on the British Democracy Forum.
ENGLISH DRINKING RULE
A Polish guy drinks his beer then suddenly throws his glass in the air, pulls out a pistol and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, 'In Poland our glasses are so cheap that we don't need to drink from the same glass twice'
A Pakistani, obviously impressed by this, drinks his beer, throws the glass into the air, pulls out his AK-47 and shoots the glass to pieces.
He says, 'In Pakistan we have so much sand to make glasses that we don't need to drink out of the same glass twice either.'
A English chap, cool as a cucumber, picks up his beer and drinks it, throws the glass into the air, pulls out his gun and shoots the Pole and the Pakistani and catches his glass.
He says, 'In England we now have that many Pakistanis and Poles that we don't have to drink with the same ones twice.
God Bless England!
By April Steve Uncles had become the English Democrats lead candidate for the EU Parliament elections in the South East, a fact which led Bearded Socialist to ask "Should this guy ever be elected?". Two other questions spring immediately to mind: Should the English Democrats have allowed him to stand, and; Why didn't they force him to apologise or eject him from the party?
To date there has been no apology for this 'joke' from either the EDP or Steve Uncles, the lead candidate for my region. There is no way that I would vote for this man even if his 'official' line is somewhat different.
I look forward to the day when I can celebrate my English Identity, without the implication that I am 'Racist or a Bigot' - pride in one's Country is natural & healthy. - Steve Uncles
Presumably because a lack of pride in ones country is unnatural and unhealthy Steve Uncles then embarked on a series of distasteful attacks on Chris Lightfoot, all round good egg, genius, and online democracy and civil liberties campaigner, who tragically committed suicide. Tim Ireland takes up the case:
Rather than risk yet another ridiculous legal threat from yet another [expletive deleted], I'll mostly let Steve Uncle's own words speak for him in this post:
"You may recall the 'self hating' blogger - Chris Lightfoot, who in 2004, 'went off on one' just because he got a leaflet through his letter box with an England Flag on it. 18 Months ago the poor lad Committed Suicide - that's what happens when you hate your own country, you have no identity, no focus - nothing." - Steve Uncles, 30 May 2009
And just in case that wasn't enough:
"Good! Let's hope you go the same way as Chris Lightfoot" - Steve Uncles, 30 May 2009
And, as you can see, this is not a one-off or a 'moment of madness' but a theme that Steve Uncles keeps returning to:
"If we get the Liberal's way, and have a multi-cultural "soup" everywhere in the world - what fun will it be when we go abroad ? You self haters, really need to sharpen up you game. Chris Lightfoot, did not do ANYTHING for English Democracy. The guy was a waster." Steve Uncles, March 18, 2009
If another reason to not vote for Steve Uncles was needed, then his mocking of a suicide victim is it.
Then came the bizarre spat with blogger John Demetriou, which began when Alan England, former National Secretary of the English Democrats Party, now head of The English Lobby*, went on the attack over John's Greek surname:
The indications are that Dimeeteeooo is of Greek national or ethnic origin, assuming he was born here, who presumes to sneer at all things in England! Instead of tolerating such creeps - as we English people have in the past - we should ostracise them, shun 'em, let 'em know we are not going to put up with their bad manners without protest.
After all, if it is really so despicable here, they can always go the land of their forebears and save valuable space here. With luck, they might even enjoy another military junta, which could be more to their sour taste.
Such pieces as Dimeeteeooo's serve to encourage right thinking English folk that something needs to be done to rid us of all those foreigners who do not want to fit in but impose their ideas on us, whether they come from north or west of the borders or from further afield!
In the flame war that ensued Steve Uncles insisted that John Demetriou and anyone who was critical of the English Democrats and their manifesto, and in particular anyone who did not vote English Democrats, was "anti-English". Alan England (who goes by the handle Cassie on the British Democracy Forum) went further and referred to me as an anti-white racist. Another contributor he called "anti-white" and "racist" when they raised objection to the '14 words' that the England First Party use as their guiding principle, coined by David Lane: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children".
Now, kindly explain what is unacceptable about the aspiration: "we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" - Alan England
Eventually Steve Uncles was banned from the British Democracy Forum and crossed over to the CoSG forum to post the following challenge (which was almost immediately removed by the forum's administration - but not before I took a screenshot).
However much I agree with the principle of an English parliament I simply cannot bring myself to vote for a party that includes such odious individuals posting such odious material on public forums. I will leave the last word to Alan England himself whose thoughts on the conduct of the English Democrats when he fell out with them echo mine now:
England deserves much, much better than the English Democrats Party which is not truly democratic, nor does it accord long established rights to its members.
It is a counterfeit political party which too many of its members slavishly worship, instead of engaging their brains on something acceptable. They come here posting their inane comments, but hypocritically deny others similar opportunities to post comments on their websites.
* The English Lobby, relaunched at the English Democrats 2007 conference, was originally set up in 2004 by Christine Constable, the then Vice Chairman of the English Democrats, with support from two other parties: The Third Way and The Freedom Party. Today it operates under the direction of Alan England and Robin Tilbrook, Leader of the English Democrats Party.
- Boatang & Demetriou's English Democrats series » Boatang & Demetriou
- EDP candidate Steve Uncles ? in his own words « Hundreds and Thousands
- Do you ever feel like a useful idiot? » The England Project
- Regrettably, I?m voting UKIP » A National Conversation For England
- English democrats Party - All Rotten Apples in a Rancid Barrel? » Socialist Unity
- You can’t libel the dead, but the English Democrats are having a bloody good go of it » Quaequam Blog!
UPDATE: An EDP member sets me straight.
Toque old chap please try and your facts right.
The press conference was organised and hosted by Cllr. Mike Johnson (yes he was once an EFP member) - who is now an EDP member. He was the EDP European Election campaign organiser for the NW Region. What he is now I don't know (ask Robin Tilbrook)?
All NW EDP and EFP members were invited to the press conference, and as far as I know, about 25 EDP members (including the 8 Euro candidates) and about 5 or 6 EFP members turned up.
There were four speakers - 3 from the EDP (Robin Tilbrook, Ed Abrams and Cllr. M. Johnson) and 1 from the EFP (Peter Rushton).
Those are the facts - happy
UPDATE II: Another EDP member sets me straight.
To qualify for a National Party Political Broadcast in the EU Elections you need to stand in ALL 9 English EU Regions - The North West of England, was going to let the whole project down, so at the last moment Cllr Michael Johnson, was contacted (a half cast man) to help.
He did and the Project Went ahead.
You Sir, have been rather silly with your assumptions - Gareth Young (Toque)is a member of the British Labour party, you have been tricked - think long and hard about what you have done.